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Poster: shorthopper88 Date: Mar 10, 2010 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 1967

The recent post on Cream and the Grateful Dead in the 1967 San Francisco scene got me delving into some prime 1967 dead, and I am absolutely blown away by this show...
http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-03-18.sbd.fink.10282.sbeok.shnf

I style they were playing in at this show, i think, is unique only to this short period of time, soon they would change their style, and we can no longer call it true early era dead. Though some may consider 1968 "early era dead" I think we definetly have to recognize that by 1968, an "era" of the grateful dead had easily already come and gone.
I'm looking for show recommendations of this true early dead, I need some help because many good performances are clouded by poor sound quality. and some performances just aren't good
Also, please add to/disagree with what i've said, i'm sure some of you have a much clearer picture of these time periods than I do.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Mar 12, 2010 1:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

If you don't like 11/19/66 and 3/18/67, there is something wrong with you :P

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Poster: amosearle Date: Mar 10, 2010 8:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

Thanks for this recommendation. I'm going to detour back to this list and take a brief break from the Further shows. I admit to cherry picking from the Further shows, but I do that with most shows these days. Again with the nod to the respectable, (but not '67) golden road of 3-6-10.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 10, 2010 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

Agreed, by January of '68 the music is radically different. Jer's skills and confidence have advanced quite a bit from '66. Sadly not one official release from 1967. Whats up with that?

My top ten of 1967:

03/18/67 (97-98)
05/05/67 (96) misdated
06/18/67 (96-97)
08/04/67 (95)
08/05/67 (95)
09/03/67 (97)
09/04/67 (90)
10/22/67 (97)
11/10/67 (98)
11/11/67 (97+)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 10, 2010 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967: four good ones

Not that it bears repeating, BUT recall the Great Search for ALL the Golden Road (live ones) we all were discussing some many years ago, and THAT is what got me really introduced to 67 myself...I will echo CLIFF's choices, reinforcing it for those that might like at least two votes to go on (his count more than mine though, as he's really scoured the year better than me):

Mar, May, Oct and Nov are really the four that I go to the most frequently for a dose of this reflection of the first album on the live side...yes, by Jan and Feb of 68 they are a different beast, I think we'd all agree. So, that gives us these four to serve as an introduction:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-03-18.sbd.fink.10282.sbeok.shnf

And another (the one above sounds a bit better, IMHO):

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1967-03-18.sbd.sacks.1594.shnf

Hmmm--my May show, the one you note is mislabeled, CLIFF:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-05-05.sbs.yerys.1595.sbeok.shnf

I had a recording of the above from an FM broadcast in the 70s for years--one of the few cassettes I digitized and then subsequently got a copy from a kind soul hereabouts.

A really good one:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-10-22.sbd.miller.18101.sbeok.shnf

Take your pick of these two as well:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-11-10.sbd.sacks.1612.sbeok.shnf

Or a day later:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-11-11.sbd.sacks.1613.sbeok.shnf

I think that these more or less cover the range of material for the year, and give a good sense of what they did live with what they produced for the first ablum...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Mar 11, 2010 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967: four good ones

That 11/10 is great

I especially like the track titled Hoot! Jeer!

:)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 11, 2010 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967: four good ones

Big fan of that 3/18 show -- especially Dancin, Cream Puff War, Same Thing and Viola Lee.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 11, 2010 4:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

Ah, always glad to see another listener find the joy of '67 Dead!

It's true, by 1968, the Dead had already gone through not one but TWO eras... Time moved fast in the '60s.
'66 is in a realm all its own, and I did a big post on that. 11-19-66 and 3-18-67 are kind of sister shows, where you see the transition from their poppy '66 style to their more psychedelic '67 style.
Then in Jan '68 we suddenly see a whole bunch of new songs and a new approach. A lot of this was dropped by the end of the year, but this is where you start to hear the '69 Live/Dead style come into being.
(It's an interesting experiment, to check out one show from each year - 67, 68, 69, 70 & so on - and hear the raw energy level just drop from year to year. Even more evident when you go backwards.)

Anyway - my recommendation, of course, is to listen to all the SBDs of '67. There are so few shows from that year (and most of them are really short), you can get through the whole year in no time. You can skip the AUDs, though, unless you're hardcore.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Mar 11, 2010 6:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967 -- Sweeeeettt

forgot how much I love Cream-Puff War

Woooooooooooooooooo Hoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the rec

P.S. The Viola Lee ain't none to shabby neither

This post was modified by jglynn1.2 on 2010-03-11 14:46:51

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Poster: Ernie Bo-Peep Date: Mar 10, 2010 7:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

8/4-5/67: just two songs each but worth every note
9/3/67: has more highs than lows, a keeper
10/22/67: great show top to bottom
11/10-11/67: essential, awesome, etc.

LIA's discussion about questionable dates for 1967 including links to shows:
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/1967-dead-tapes.html




This post was modified by Ernie Bo-Peep on 2010-03-11 03:00:53

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 10, 2010 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

Whoops--sorry EBP! Didn't see you already provided the link back to the links...see? Whenever I do any work around here, it goes for naught!

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Poster: Judge TOOTMO Date: Mar 11, 2010 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

"Whenever I do any work around here, it goes for naught"

Actually, I was kind of frightened. I literally said out loud, "f*ckin' Tell's got links?" I kept checking the poster's name. It was very scary...


TOOTMO

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 11, 2010 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

Unlike all the other hard working "linkers", did you notice I selected the ONE yr for which you could open the page for the year, and then just bip (sp?) back and forth between dates copying and pasting the show link? It was really easy...then I see EBP already linked to the post that had them ALL already...jeezzz.

You'd think PMs wouldn't just go around trying to get away with working hard by continually harping on attacking the soft underbelly...whoops...sorry, wrong speech.

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Poster: Judge TOOTMO Date: Mar 11, 2010 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

You were plagiarizing a forum post? Better hope the tenure committee doesn't get wind of it.

TOOTMO

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 11, 2010 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

Well, as long as I say it better, where's the harm? Don't answer that...besides, the whole "soft underbelly" obsession of my former namesake got us Gallapoli, Anzio, Crete, and all the other exciting adventures in the sunny Mediterranean Climate; what's with a few casualties?

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Poster: Ernie Bo-Peep Date: Mar 11, 2010 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1967

LOL, WT...the more links the merrier I say.
Unless you like bacon or ham, then you wouldn't be merry at all.